Thread:ZeroExalted/@comment-3255675-20140511212504/@comment-3255675-20140512044819

ZeroExalted wrote: Interesting, considering the fact you've asked me to promote BlueChoco and Kate to staff positions, on the basis that "you liked them" in private messaging. I never said anything about Kate in your private messages. I've asked you to promote BlueChoco because it isn't fair that you removed his administrator status just because he was active at the time DynastyW told you to clean out the staff. I believe he should keep his administrator status because he's a very good staff; he made good edits, and he resolves tense situations when there is conflict on the wiki. ZeroExalted wrote:

You asked to be an administrator temporarily (citing "urgent business," and repeatedly harassing me on the site by telling me to join Chat several times), without Community approval. After your rightful duration was up, you decided that you liked having power for a bit, and now wanted to keep it - despite a lack of pressing reasons to appoint a new administrator. I've seen that TopsyKretts3 has done the same thing, so I thought that was allowed. A very short temporary administrator does not really need community approval, due to short length of time. It also wastes time. There's a better opportunity cost than to waste time making a proposition for an administrator status that last only for a week or so.

The only reason why I requested to be an administrator temporary because we need to rename images to fit the General Image Naming Standard that the community has approved. Because I was only available during the weekends, and busy during the weekdays, I did not have time to finish renaming the images. Originally, I wanted to ask you to extend my temporary administrator, but it would be a hassle if I didn't finish again. Some even encouraged me to just apply for permanent administrator. I obtained support, and I ultimately applied for administrator. Not to mention, there are REALLY a lot of unfinished work on the wiki that requires administrator status. You probably don't want to do it all yourself. I am doing what is best for the wiki. ZeroExalted wrote:

So you start a proposition (also "illegal," as we've decided as a Community in the past - with you there - that there is no reason to start propositions without rightful basis), on the assumption that if you had enough supporters, you would immediately be brought to an authoritative position; disregarding the fact that at least two other staff members did not voice their opinion, and failing to ensure that they were taken into account. Please give me a link that shows that we, as a community, decided that propositions are "illegal."

I did not disregard the other two staff members to voice their opinion. It's a fair assumption that if they made a comment on the proposition and decided not to vote, then they are probably neutral on that particular matter. ZeroExalted wrote:

Ignoring your wrongdoings, we went by the verdict of the proposition - and I appointed Topsy as well, to balance you out with an opposite. There, you forget your place once again - not only does your proposition clearly ask, "Should ComradeJ be promoted to Site Administrator," instead of being a formal application, you also assumed that if the referendum went through, you would be the only one appointed. There shouldn't be any tricks or hidden disclaimer that does more than what the proposition stated. I even prefer someone else in staff besides TopsyKretts3 because of his past actions. Trust is like a glass jar. Once it's broken, though you can fix it the glass jar will never be same again.”

-MVP EdwardJ If I'm a politician and I propose a law that states, "We will increase public safety without increasing your taxes," then what you see there is what you see. There shouldn't be an exception to that. You cannot take funds from the public, nor use tax money to increase public safety. When the law successfully passed, I cannot add anything more to that. It wouldn't be fair if I added, after the law passed, "Oh, to increase public safety, we're also going to allow people to use guns to add another layer of safety just in case public safety is not safe enough." ZeroExalted wrote:

Not only did appointing Topsy not affect you in any way, you also took offense immediately - unbecoming of a person aiming for a position of authority. If you read my proposition carefully, I did not want any authority over others. I am doing what is best the wiki in the long run. I don't want him to be an administrator, because he doesn't solve problems. He still haven't proved himself that he has a positive attitude. If you noticed last time I had a dispute with him, I tried to compromise with him and he wouldn't give in and agree to it. He kept going with his own ways. The only reason that dispute was resolved because you took action. And recently, I told him to stop editing my proposition, and he doesn't comply. I locked the page and he kept on editing it. ZeroExalted wrote:

And from there since, you've been harassing other users - including me and Topsy - by starting a flame war over reasons that are both unjustified and unnoteworthy, and glancing neutral parties like Mud with your side comments. I haven't harassed anyone on the wiki. I take my job very seriously. I only thought you both are up to no good because of your past actions. I am not going to elaborate on that unfortunate event; you already know what happened.