Talk:R870 SE/@comment-24226495-20131128190033

The most underrated SG in the game. Solid 2 hit kill within 20 feet, but the overall range is closer to 45 or 50. The fire rate is 17 on paper, but in game it's faster than that (other SGs with 17 ROF shoot significantly slower.  Just look at the shooting .gif on this page). The spread is tight, and with extended mag II you've got 11 rounds to work with.

This is my go-to SG if I join a game that doesn't allow Max's. The damage is almost identical to Max's (the difference isn't really noticable) but the range of all R870s is identical, and they have the best SG range in the game.

I've been rage kicked a lot while using this SG. "No way it has that much range" is a common complaint emods give me.