Thread:ZeroExalted/@comment-3255675-20140511212504/@comment-1242640-20140512211247


 * 1) "Facts are facts. There's still a lot of things need to be done on the wiki. Your progress of fixing up the wiki has been a very slow process as I have been observing over the years." I'm interested in seeing when you, or anyone, has asked me to use my administrative powers to fix anything recently...whereas I have asked, multiple times, for people to work on stuff like this - to no avail. Tasks that can be done without administrative powers...which I'm still waiting to see progress on. The list of things Topsy, or anyone else has asked me to do, I have addressed, completed, and checked-off, one by one.
 * 2) "We?" What do you mean by we? We never discussed anything about the proposition standards at all. By "we," I'm sure you meant TopsyKretts3 and yourself." I say "we," because it wouldn't be very fair to say that I said or did anything alone...though if I did, I'm sure that would've given you more to nitpick. Again, I'm sure word choice must be very important when there are other pressing issues to worry about.
 * 3) You and Topsy both use methods to get what you want that I dislike; but at least one of you can be reasoned with. In your case, you persist with something, bother everyone else about it, and gather enough support for your idea until you think you can make an argument.
 * 4) "Oh, and don't ever talk about him again." A threat. Interesting. Bannable, even. And aside from not knowing who you're referring to, it's also interesting when you take into account the role you played in escalating that mess. Something I wasn't a part of, and did not do anything about, until the very last minute.
 * 5) "You need to be logical here. I compromise with you because it is for the best of the wiki." I have yet to see a compromise between you or anyone, that did not involve you attacking the other party afterwards or refusing to hear their side. Case in point, go back to any dispute-related blog where you were a participant, or anything that involves Topsy. Especially bias towards Topsy.
 * 6) "Yes, almost everyone I know told me to apply." That doesn't answer my question. Do you find it interesting that for some reason, just for your proposition, semi-inactive people came out in droves to support you? I'm sure you didn't do any convincing at all...in-chat, in-game, anywhere...while no one else has done so for a vote.

Do you even realize the ice you're treading on?

Even if you call me, Topsy, or anyone else out for incompetence or insubordination, that doesn't excuse the rules you broke along the way. The fact that you've been vehemently outspoken about this proposition, especially with the verdict, is already suspect.

Not even considering the proposition, sketchy or illegal or not, you've harassed people even after the verdict had been reached - and possibly even before. And even with the proposition ending the way you wanted it to, you found things to complain about. Who closed the proposition, the fact that Topsy was appointed - anything you could've possibly grasped for has been used in your arguments, to the point where you're accusing people of "malicious collaboration".

I'm sure you saw this days before the proposition ended, but didn't say anything about it. Only NOW do you bring up ""discussion outside the Wiki" as an issue, when it seems you chose to ignore actual discussion sitting right there. Which brings up another suspicious move on your part.

If you were applying to become an administrator, who was the proposition addressed to? It can't have been me, as I wasn't made aware of it until the 9th. The last day. And I don't see any message on my Wall from you alerting me about it either. Perhaps you were waiting until after the verdict had been reached to present it to me, so that I couldn't say no?

Want to read any e-mails Topsy has sent me? Why not? They haven't addressed you in the least, so just give me your e-mail.

Anything you could possibly blame us for is overshadowed by the fact that you got what you wanted, illegally or not, and still made a fuss about it - breaking rules along the way. You were upset that Topsy, a person you openly dislike, was appointed alongside you, and declared it illegitimate - whereas the other things you did, including not ascertaining the opinions of your staff peers, were not.

Everything aside, the lack of maturity is appalling. Even with any of your offenses out of the question, the sheer attitude you've taken towards this is well-within grounds of being stripped of your position - because you don't seem to be ready for it.

Demoting you right now would be a mercy, taking into account all the rules you've broken. And I'm sure Wikia Central can vouch towards how you handled this, as well as your behavior.