Thread:ComradeJ/@comment-2052424-20140511135527/@comment-3255675-20140511222305

Muddapaka wrote: First of all, Ark labled the late votes "opinions", not Topsy or Zero. Also, the date the proposition ended was pretty clearly stated and they had plenty of time to act. Its their fault that they didnt vote on time. Arkzan has made a mistake, and he wanted to be fair. They personally told me reasons why they didn't vote. Muddapaka wrote:
 * Arkzan told me that he didn't vote because there was a typo on the deadline which originally said "December." He thought that the vote will end on December. I fixed the error 6 days after I wrote the proposition.
 * Inc1t3Ful told me that he didn't vote because he was very busy. He told me that it was AP exam week for him, and he didn't have time to vote. On the last day he was about to vote, his mother told him to turn off the computer, and he didn't get to submit his vote.

Second, its not a cardinal sin that people on the wiki talk outside of the wiki. As we dont know what they were talking about, they really cant be portrayed as "collaborating" agaisnt you. They could have simply been talking about the Ukranian Crisis or w/e, but we dont know. The accusation that they colluded is purely conjecture Anything relating must be said on the wiki for everyone else to know what will happen on the wiki. Everyone must be informed about what will happen on the wiki. For example, it isn't fair if I didn't say anything on the wiki, and a few days later, the wiki closed down. I am fine with any discussions outside of the wiki, as long as it does not relate to the wiki. Any discussion outside of the wiki that's relating to the wiki must be shown afterwards. It can be as simple as taking a screenshot of the conversation. Muddapaka wrote:

Likewise, the accusation that Zero maliciously ignored the vote is conjecture. I dont understand what youre trying to say with the editing and timestamp things. In the past, they both have collaborated outside of the wiki and caused racket in the aftermath. I am taking precautionary measures and make sure that do not happen again. Muddapaka wrote:

How many of the users who did not have 50 or more edits are actually active? Some people just made an account and never came back, skewing your data. The wiki community does not include dead or inactive accounts. If someone died or left the country, do we still count them in the census? No. Do we let everyone vote for the presidential elections? No. If theyre not qualified to vote, why should they? These inactive people arent even part of the wiki community, so why do they get to decide what happens? If "all editors are equal", why not just open voting for anons as well? I made a fair data, and I excluded everyone who did not make a single edit on the wiki. I took that total and divided it by everyone who made at least 50 edits or more. That statistic is more than fair. Anyone can rebirth and edit on the wiki again. According to that policy's definition, then unfortunately, we count all the accounts (including ones that did not do an edit). They are part of the community because they created an account HERE, not on any other wiki. We could open votes for anons, but they must identify themselves (which defect the purpose of anonymity) because we do not want sockpuppets voting and we want to be sure that it's really them. In regards, to Nexxy and PoWeRsViP- voting, it's more than fair for them to vote because it's obvious that they're not being sockpuppets, and they have been a member for over a year. That's easily verified. Again, this is relating to them being reborn and being back on the wiki, an idea I talked about earlier.

Your example of the presidential elections is flawed. According to the wiki definition, anyone who has made at least a single edit is part of the community, no matter what edit they do; as long as they made an edit on here. In the presidential elections, only registered voters can vote. You may be a United States citizen, but if you haven't registered to vote, then you can't vote in the election. According to statistics, there are 221,925,820 registered voters in the United States and only 130,292,355 registered voters have voted in the 2012 Presidential Election. That's around 93 million registered voters who did not vote. Only 58.71% of registered voters have voted in the election.

In your analogy,

Proposition is to presidental election as to inactive people is to people who are either lazy, old, or did not bother to care about politics.